For those
who have never heard of Ichabod, I’m going to do my best to be as neutral as
possible in explanation (And Greg Jackson, please feel free to tell me if I got
anything factually wrong in this part, I want to be accurate!)
Ichabod is
a blog run by Greg Jackson, a former WELS (Wisonsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod,
the church I grew up in) pastor who left the synod and now works independently.
His blog follows key news from WELS especially in relation to the college run
by WELS, and important figures in WELS, particularly pointing out things he
and/or others find wrong that they are doing. He also does sermons each Sunday via
stream, and posts about other news usually gardening or other churches such as
the Episcopal church.
He’s made
many posts about me coming out as trans and my friend Zak coming out as gay
since graduating from MLC. He’s entitled to whatever opinions he has about us
or what happened, so my goal isn’t to attack his opinions. Instead, for those
that have read his posts, I’d like to
address some of the factual errors that have come up in his posts about us.
“Among other things, Zak bragged about posting photos of himself on a
gay porn site.”
This one
was kind of hilarious when we saw it actually. The reason this one came about
was another post that I could not find in which Zak messaged him and mentioned
Grindr. He then sarcastically referred to it as a porno site as a bit of humor.
Whether or not you find it funny, as many already know, and the rest of you who
have the modern capability to google something, know that Grindr is simply a
chat and dating app (Not even a website.) And so obviously Zak wasn’t bragging
about anything but, well, being silly.
MLC was going to let Zac Stowe graduate with his degree, not give him
an assignment,
and he was supposed to keep quiet for a few years.
This one was also hilarious when
we saw the conspiracy theory type message. Now this one can’t totally be blamed
on Greg Jackson as he has “informants” within WELS and MLC, and this came from
one of them. So they are to blame for the silliness here, but there are a few
points in this one to clear up.
1.
Zak was
denied student teaching for a totally different reason. Zak wrote a paper
for a class which troubled the professor in Zak’s views in regards to
Christianity. This resulted in him being counseled, and when they did not think
he was ready to student teach in a Christian school because of his troubling
views, he was denied student teaching.
2.
Zak did
not graduate with his degree. At least, not exactly. Because he was denied
student teaching, he only got an Education Studies degree, which is a
non-teaching degree, and therefor he would never get an assignment regardless
3.
No one
outside of Zak’s close friends knew he was gay (And even if others did, it was
a fluke.) Zak confided his secret in a few close friends. This secret was
guarded carefully because, well, we all knew he could likely get expelled for
it. He was terrified of the school
finding out (Which makes the idea of having a deal with the VP being even more
ridiculous.)
4.
Zak had
no plans to keep quiet after graduation. Zak pretty much already planned on
coming out after graduation. He would’ve never made the deal in the first
place, cause it really wouldn’t have gotten him anything.
5.
People were
threatened to not be able to student teach for being friends with him and me on
Facebook. If MLC was so willing to know about us and just hide us, why
would this happen? In fact, why should it happen regardless, seriously?
6.
Even if
Zak did admit he was gay to Schone, he wouldn’t necessarily need to have been quiet. This one is a little
complicated at first, but think about it. Admitting to being gay would simply
be him saying “Hey, I have attraction to men.” Guess what? We’ve had that
happen in WELS already. They’re the people of “People of Grace Lutherans” that
have admitted to same sex attraction. But they don’t act on that attraction.
WELS would’ve gladly let him speak… if he were speaking that way at least.
7.
Seriously
though, lol at the idea of the VP already knowing.
Sorry, but I can only report rumors. That is factual reporting.
Rumor: a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth. Ok umm… no, that in fact, is not factual
reporting. It literally by definition is not. Also, fun fact, you can report
whatever you want! You could make stuff up, it doesn’t even need to be rumors.
It could just be total lies or even literal hard evidence. So no, you can’t only post rumors. YOU CAN DO IT, I
BELIEVE IN YOU :D
Neither are you a woman because you are taking some female hormones and
want to be female. That is not my position on the issue - it is medicine's
position.
Actually,
it’s not medicine’s position! This one both misses the point and gets into the
sticky point of gender and sex, so there are a few things to discuss, the first
of which is what we use to determine what makes someone a man or a woman.
“Simple,”
you might be saying “Men have penises and XY chromosomes and women have vaginas
and XX chromosomes.” And for a majority of the time, that’s right!.... buuuut
it’s not exactly an absolute thing, as humans have a lot of sexual dimorphism
(Things that are different between male and female.) But to simplify the
already incredibly complex explanation of biological sex, I’m going to boil it
down to 3 key sexually dimorphic parts of the body: Chromosomes, genitals, and
brain structure.
It is
easiest to teach children that men have XY and women have XX. This however, is
vaaaaastly oversimplified. In fact, we’ve found non-chimera people that have
both XX and XY chromosomes in different parts of their body!
This also
ignores interesting chromosomal patterns. Not only do we have XXX, XXY, and XYY
happening but we also have De La Chapelle syndrome (Having XX chromosomes but
having a penis) and Swyer syndrome (Having XY chromosomes but having a vagina.)
Now, I haven’t had my chromosomes tested so, the best we can go upon is
assumption that I have XY.
Genitals
also are far more complicated than we think. While penis and vagina are the
most common, we have a large spectrum of intersex people that have anything
from ambiguous genitals that are inbetween and impossible to tell if male or
female, people with both a penis and vagina, and people with gonads that are
neither ovaries nor testicles. So… are they men or women? They don’t have the
things we like to say are specifically for men or women. So genitals are pretty
iffy on the factor too.
But not the
last one, brain structure, is a very critical one. The brain is the center of
our concept of our gender, of being male or female. Studies show that kids have
a concept of being male or female very early on in life. And brain studies have
shown that key parts of the brain are (Generally) different between men and
women. So what about trans people?
Well, the
really interesting part is that trans people’s brains have been shown to have
the same structure as their gender identity, rather than their birth assigned
gender! So, it is very likely that if my brain were examined, it would match
the structure of women’s brains.
Not only this,
research has shown again and again that medical transition is the best option
for treating the conflicts trans people feel. Attempting to change the brain
not only doesn’t work, but can cause serious damage. And the brain is also the
center of our concept of self.
So, while
it’s easy to say that because of my genitals, I’m a guy, science is far more
complicated than that. And in fact, scientists have generally agreed that
taking into account these factors, trans women are, in fact, women, and trans
men are, in fact, men.
So, sorry
GJ, modern medicine is pretty well on my side here J
You said you were leaving WELS, but you seem to have a lot of allies
already in the synod.
If you look
at the post the last point was mentioning, you’ll see this with a bunch of
pictures following it. This again is one in which there are a few points to be
made.
1.
I do not have allies in the synod.
Everyone that I know of that is fully supportive of me either was never in
WELS, or has left WELS. And multiple people still in WELS have stopped talking
to me altogether. So no, I don’t have a lot of allies.
2.
Students
pretending to be gay is NOT
supportive. Notice the picture of the two boys with the heart? Now, I
really really want to give GJ the
benefit of the doubt and say he doesn’t actually think this means WELS people
are supportive, but just in case, if it isn’t obvious, they’re not supporting
gay people. They’re making fun of gay people. Pretending to be gay is a joke,
it’s something to be laughed at. That’s not supportive, that makes gay people
feel worse, because it makes them to be something to be laughed at.
3.
Cross-dressing
is not necessarily supporting trans people. The pictures of the pastors in
dresses is not something that makes me “feel better” or think they’d be “open”
to me. It’s obviously another thing to be made fun of. It’s not supporting me,
it’s laughing at me. It’s making me a joke. That’s part of why I was so afraid
to come out. I was something to be mocked, because wearing girls clothes would
be shameful and funny and something to be laughed at.
4.
Cross-dressing
is not the same thing as transgender. In case you’re someone just figuring
out that gender is a cultural thing, cross-dressing doesn’t make someone
transgender. If a guy wears a dress that doesn’t mean he wants to be a girl, it
could just mean that like… he likes that dress. We associate dresses with women
culturally but objectively… it’s just clothes. It’s not objectively male or
female, our culture defines it as such. What clothes you wear has no bearing on
who you are. Hell, most cross-dressers are heterosexual men!
Now, this last
one isn’t something wrong, it’s a question he posed. And now, I want to take
time to actually answer the questions for him.
Where was the
pastoral care for Sam Birner and Zak Stowe
at WELS Martin Luther
College?
Or at Michigan
Lutheran Seminary, also WELS?
His congregation?
His fellow students -
many of them future pastors and teachers?
Ok, I lied, one
error. You used male pronouns when you mention two of us, so it should be “they.”
J
Anyway, GJ, I
would like to answer your questions, because we sort of agree for once. I
wondered the exact same thing while I was going through my schooling and going
to WELS churches. So where was the pastoral care? It either wasn’t there, or
was just really well hidden.
We were
terrified to tell pastors about any of it. We didn’t have support. It was never
stated “If you’re struggling or suicidal, you can talk to us.” There was no
offer for us when we were suicidal. And in fact, the environment made us only
more terrified.
I do agree with
one thing. Those pictures of people pretending to be gay and cross-dressing and
all of that? I agree, that should’ve never been done. I saw it everywhere, even
in talent shows and other school sanctioned shows. And it was an awful idea.
Not because it “promoted”
any LGBT stuff, because it made us terrified. Because we were made to be jokes.
We were made to be mocked, laughed at, ridiculed, and totally dismissed. We
weren’t offered comfort, we were offered mocking. That’s where it was, behind
the mocking. So I agree, where was
the help? Cause I sure as hell didn’t see it.
Amber,
ReplyDelete"We were terrified to tell pastors about any of it. We didn’t have support. It was never stated “If you’re struggling or suicidal, you can talk to us.” There was no offer for us when we were suicidal. And in fact, the environment made us only more terrified."
As a pastor, I would have objected to this statement, 'but of course you could talk to me, that is why I am here.' But I understand that unless that is stated specifically, repeatedly, and not undermined by harsh statements in sermons, or in Bible Classes, or coarse joking that goes on in many places, there is no way you or anyone else would feel safe coming forward.
Thank you for explaining your experience with your gender identity and also sharing some of the medical realities as well. Working at an academic medical hospital campus, I have heard similar facts as you have shared.
And lest anyone care to dispute facts, I don't believe there is any disputing one's feelings.
Thank you for sharing and God Bless.
Your experience so disturbed and troubled me that what I intended to be a short comment posted here turned into something else ( alecsatin.com/wels-mocking-gays/ ) .
ReplyDeleteMy apologies to you for the shameful and ugly behavior of those professing Christians.
With kind thoughts,
Alec
I think if you were more open about your thoughts and feelings of who you are earlier that you would have had the pastoral care that you claim you lack. My father is a WELS pastor and I know of many instances where he has counseled people who have proclaimed homosexuality or feeling of being a different gender. I know some of those people and they never felt judged or condemned by my father. I am sorry that you feel that way but please do not put all WELS members, pastor, or professors under the same judgement of a select few you have come across. Just as you want everyone to not judge you without meeting you. I wish you well in your life!
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